systems change, systems thinking...systems confused?

This is a snapshot of one of our group conversations with Gemma Drake, a designer, systems thinker and coach for social change.

In this conversation we explore the challenges and differences between systems thinking and design, what that means for those of us that work in social change and how we hold spaces for multi-stakeholder systems design, particularly when they all don’t always necessarily agree. The rest of the conversation was held in confidence for participants to be able to share and learn together freely. Hope you enjoy it!

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